Comments on: Gay Porn Shown In Ugandan Church http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/ Keeping Canada Connected Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:05:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Saint Mike http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11684 Saint Mike Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:17:56 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11684 Response to 'jdiganci': The problem isn't with the bible, it's with the people reading it. Those that 'interpret' it a certain way in order to support and justify their sinful way of life, instead of changing their lives in support of what the bible clearly teaches. What God teaches, but of course if you don't believe the bible is real then it doesn't really matter. However, the bible does clearly state in 2 Peter 1:19-21,"no scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, ". God communicated things in a specific way with specific words. If someone has to add to it or ignore parts of it’s not from God (truth), it’s an interpretation. As for 1 Corinthians 13, Love is the greatest commandment but only when it, " does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with truth"(vs. 6). If you’re not in truth, love becomes a ‘noisy gong’ and self serving. Here is the problem again, it’s people trying to bend scripture to support their way of life instead of changing themselves in support of scripture. BTW, you spelled Corinthians wrong and as for the 'love' that you speak of in this chapter, it's referring to the Greek word "agape", love which is a sacrificial love, not the love that most people use these scriptures to support, which is "eros", a passionate love, with sensual desire or longing. Still the Christian message is Loving and honoring one another but this is widely miss used and used out of context, much as you did in your earlier post. If you’re not willing to sacrifice self for others or put the needs of others before your own then you’re not talking about the “love” that 1 Corinthians is talking about!! “The greatest of these is ‘love’..” means it’s not about ‘me’, it’s about others(another problem is a “me, me, me” mentality. However, if all we stand for is ‘love’ and not ‘truth’ we’ll have an apathetic people with no order or absolutes. “You’re OK, I’m OK! You do what you want to and I’ll do what I want to, You’re right, I’m right”, soon to follow, anarchy (no rules). If you were really raised in a Christian environment, I'd encourage you to go back to that but take your own advise and do your homework. Don't let the so called interpretations of scripture from others frustrate you. Again, the bible isn’t the problem, it's mankind as it has been from the very beginning. Man trying to be his own God! There has to be a final authority and it can’t come from man, as man(without God) is corrupt and deceitful! PS. Being accepting of others doesn't mean you 'love' them. TRULY caring people love others by putting others before themselvs, as I've stated. You can do this and not go to hell. It really comes down to a choice!! Response to ‘jdiganci’:

The problem isn’t with the bible, it’s with the people reading it. Those that ‘interpret’ it a certain way in order to support and justify their sinful way of life, instead of changing their lives in support of what the bible clearly teaches. What God teaches, but of course if you don’t believe the bible is real then it doesn’t really matter. However, the bible does clearly state in 2 Peter 1:19-21,”no scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, “. God communicated things in a specific way with specific words. If someone has to add to it or ignore parts of it’s not from God (truth), it’s an interpretation. As for 1 Corinthians 13, Love is the greatest commandment but only when it, ” does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with truth”(vs. 6). If you’re not in truth, love becomes a ‘noisy gong’ and self serving. Here is the problem again, it’s people trying to bend scripture to support their way of life instead of changing themselves in support of scripture. BTW, you spelled Corinthians wrong and as for the ‘love’ that you speak of in this chapter, it’s referring to the Greek word “agape”, love which is a sacrificial love, not the love that most people use these scriptures to support, which is “eros”, a passionate love, with sensual desire or longing. Still the Christian message is Loving and honoring one another but this is widely miss used and used out of context, much as you did in your earlier post. If you’re not willing to sacrifice self for others or put the needs of others before your own then you’re not talking about the “love” that 1 Corinthians is talking about!! “The greatest of these is ‘love’..” means it’s not about ‘me’, it’s about others(another problem is a “me, me, me” mentality. However, if all we stand for is ‘love’ and not ‘truth’ we’ll have an apathetic people with no order or absolutes. “You’re OK, I’m OK! You do what you want to and I’ll do what I want to, You’re right, I’m right”, soon to follow, anarchy (no rules).

If you were really raised in a Christian environment, I’d encourage you to go back to that but take your own advise and do your homework. Don’t let the so called interpretations of scripture from others frustrate you. Again, the bible isn’t the problem, it’s mankind as it has been from the very beginning. Man trying to be his own God! There has to be a final authority and it can’t come from man, as man(without God) is corrupt and deceitful!

PS. Being accepting of others doesn’t mean you ‘love’ them. TRULY caring people love others by putting others before themselvs, as I’ve stated. You can do this and not go to hell. It really comes down to a choice!!

]]> By: James http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11617 James Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:06:11 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11617 Sometimes there is no soft way to say certain things. I boldly applaud the bold move of Dr. martin Ssempa. That act was very daring and it ashamed the people who do it. Well done Dr. Ssempa. Let's get this valuable and visible truth; homosexuality is a no welcome practice to the human race. Those who have always tried it if humility was to cover them would actually tell us that the act is never cool. I will forever support Rev Dr. Ssempa. His move to show what happens in the privacy of homos incenced many homos but was a huge relieve to a parent in America, Asia, Europe, Australia and Africa. I was able to know what this guys actually do. How can I be of support to such practises?????? It was no disappointment to me seeing those pictures screened. I also want to strongly deny that Ssempa must have been looking for sympathy. No. Homosexuality is no beautiful act. In Africa, a springboard for the development of many nations homosexuality was unheard of. It is not until the Arabs who had soiled themselves with some Europeans that this vice entered Africa. Nevertheless, no one accepted it. Please let Uganda do her own things. Let her govern her people in the moral way they have appreciated. This bill is going to be passed by all means. I salute you all. And to all homos, please come back to the NATURAL. James Sometimes there is no soft way to say certain things. I boldly applaud the bold move of Dr. martin Ssempa. That act was very daring and it ashamed the people who do it. Well done Dr. Ssempa. Let’s get this valuable and visible truth; homosexuality is a no welcome practice to the human race. Those who have always tried it if humility was to cover them would actually tell us that the act is never cool. I will forever support Rev Dr. Ssempa. His move to show what happens in the privacy of homos incenced many homos but was a huge relieve to a parent in America, Asia, Europe, Australia and Africa. I was able to know what this guys actually do. How can I be of support to such practises?????? It was no disappointment to me seeing those pictures screened. I also want to strongly deny that Ssempa must have been looking for sympathy. No. Homosexuality is no beautiful act. In Africa, a springboard for the development of many nations homosexuality was unheard of. It is not until the Arabs who had soiled themselves with some Europeans that this vice entered Africa. Nevertheless, no one accepted it. Please let Uganda do her own things. Let her govern her people in the moral way they have appreciated. This bill is going to be passed by all means. I salute you all. And to all homos, please come back to the NATURAL.

James

]]> By: jdiganci http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11538 jdiganci Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:34:35 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11538 for all of us that are accepting people and TRULY caring people are going to hell for our beliefs. well i'll save y'all a table. for all of us that are accepting people and TRULY caring people are going to hell for our beliefs. well i’ll save y’all a table.

]]> By: jdiganci http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11535 jdiganci Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:26:52 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11535 after putting my post on here yesterday i have to laugh at everyone else. if you read all the posts with scripture its quite comical because it appears that your christian bible contradicts itself. i grew up christian and became a pagan because every one could not agree on the same interpitation of the same bible. in the case for the pastor he is in the wrong for promoting hate. times have changed and there are many ways of contracting aids. everyone just needs to grow up and accept that people are different and there are diseases that can kill you no matter what. after putting my post on here yesterday i have to laugh at everyone else. if you read all the posts with scripture its quite comical because it appears that your christian bible contradicts itself. i grew up christian and became a pagan because every one could not agree on the same interpitation of the same bible. in the case for the pastor he is in the wrong for promoting hate. times have changed and there are many ways of contracting aids. everyone just needs to grow up and accept that people are different and there are diseases that can kill you no matter what.

]]> By: Dianne http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11476 Dianne Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:09:27 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11476 John, I am sorry if you mistakened my reply as being hateful. I was simply quoting some scripture from the Bible. I never stated anything about hatred toward sinners. I believe quite the opposite that "whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." Christians love the sinners by speaking the truth in love. We hate the sin by refusing to condone, ignore, or excuse it. The Bible is clear that no Christian is without sin. Each Christian has their own sin/temptation to struggle with. What differentiates a Christian from a non-Christian is how they deal with their struggle against their sin. A true Christian will always repent, will always return to God, and will always resume their struggle against sin. The Bible gives no support for the idea that a person who perpetually and unrepentantly engages in sin can indeed be a true Christian. All sin is forgivable yes, but if you truly repent you pray for the strength to stay away from your sin, not continue to live in a sinful lifestyle. John, I am sorry if you mistakened my reply as being hateful. I was simply quoting some scripture from the Bible. I never stated anything about hatred toward sinners. I believe quite the opposite that “whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.” Christians love the sinners by speaking the truth in love. We hate the sin by refusing to condone, ignore, or excuse it. The Bible is clear that no Christian is without sin. Each Christian has their own sin/temptation to struggle with. What differentiates a Christian from a non-Christian is how they deal with their struggle against their sin. A true Christian will always repent, will always return to God, and will always resume their struggle against sin. The Bible gives no support for the idea that a person who perpetually and unrepentantly engages in sin can indeed be a true Christian. All sin is forgivable yes, but if you truly repent you pray for the strength to stay away from your sin, not continue to live in a sinful lifestyle.

]]> By: Amber http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11470 Amber Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:15:56 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11470 Sorry Dave, but it's no one's business what two adults do in their bedroom. Straight people do "vulgar" things in the bedroom all of the time, but again, that's no one's business. This pastor should show straight porn; maybe it will stop people from doing something natural, like having sex. OMG Sorry Dave, but it’s no one’s business what two adults do in their bedroom. Straight people do “vulgar” things in the bedroom all of the time, but again, that’s no one’s business.

This pastor should show straight porn; maybe it will stop people from doing something natural, like having sex. OMG

]]> By: Amber http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11443 Amber Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:20:32 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11443 Ken, I have read the Bible. Not the whole thing; that's kind of a waste of my time. But I get the gist of it. The bible has been translated so many times over. It was also written in Greek, which did not have any sense of punctuation at the time. It was difficult to translate it so no one can really know what it was really meant to tell us. It says one thing when it possibly means something else; unless it can be backed with historical sources. Ken, I have read the Bible. Not the whole thing; that’s kind of a waste of my time. But I get the gist of it.

The bible has been translated so many times over. It was also written in Greek, which did not have any sense of punctuation at the time. It was difficult to translate it so no one can really know what it was really meant to tell us. It says one thing when it possibly means something else; unless it can be backed with historical sources.

]]> By: Saint Mike http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11435 Saint Mike Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:29:35 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11435 Under 'etc.' you can add homosexuality. According to the bible, it's a sin just the same as stealing or lying. You should research the bible alongside historical events and accounts(non-biblical records). Many historical accounts parallel the bible in great detail such as names and places that can be verified even today. The bible is the same today as it was 2000 years ago. The bible isn't the problem, it's mankind and it's unbelief! What if the bible is true and you're simply wrong? Are you willing to gamble on your eternity. Maybe you should look into it! Under ‘etc.’ you can add homosexuality. According to the bible, it’s a sin just the same as stealing or lying.

You should research the bible alongside historical events and accounts(non-biblical records). Many historical accounts parallel the bible in great detail such as names and places that can be verified even today. The bible is the same today as it was 2000 years ago. The bible isn’t the problem, it’s mankind and it’s unbelief! What if the bible is true and you’re simply wrong? Are you willing to gamble on your eternity. Maybe you should look into it!

]]> By: Saint Mike http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11432 Saint Mike Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:25:22 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11432 Under 'etc.' you can add homosexuality. According to the bible, it's a sin just the same as stealing or lying. You should research the bible alongside historical events and accounts(non-biblical records). Many historical accounts parallel the bible in great detail such as names and places that can be verified even today. The bible is the same today as it was 2000 years ago. The bible isn't the problem, it's mankind and it's unbelief! What if the bible is right and you're wrong! Are you willing to gamble on your eternity? Maybe you should check into it. Under ‘etc.’ you can add homosexuality. According to the bible, it’s a sin just the same as stealing or lying.

You should research the bible alongside historical events and accounts(non-biblical records). Many historical accounts parallel the bible in great detail such as names and places that can be verified even today. The bible is the same today as it was 2000 years ago. The bible isn’t the problem, it’s mankind and it’s unbelief! What if the bible is right and you’re wrong! Are you willing to gamble on your eternity? Maybe you should check into it.

]]> By: Saint Mike http://www.ecanadanow.com/world/2010/02/21/gay-porn-presented-shown-in-ugandan-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11418 Saint Mike Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:33:24 +0000 http://www.ecanadanow.com/?p=4649#comment-11418 Sorry Josh but you're not a Christian, not according to Jesus anyway(see further comments below). Sorry Josh but you’re not a Christian, not according to Jesus anyway(see further comments below).

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